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Gaz Roriston & Suley Mahmoud

Suley at UZI

Gaz (on top) at MB4

OK, here's the premise. Hassle two fighters who are training partners into interviewing each other. And so it came to pass that MMA veteran Gaz Roriston talks to up-and-coming star, Shakin' Suley Mahmoud via MSN. Gaz saved the conversation, so SFUK readers get to eavesdrop on the Gaz and Suley show..... SFUK 23 May 2003


Gaz Roriston says: 'Up Gaz. Are you busy?

Suley Mahoud says: Nah, sort of . I'm meant to be

Gaz. says: Shall we do the SFUK interview?

Suley says: I'm trying to set up company and stuff

Gaz. says: OK

Suley says: SFUK hasseling you too?

Gaz. says: Yep

Suley says: has SFUK sent questions?

Gaz. says: No

Suley says: haha

Gaz. says: If you want to we can make up the questions? are you there? Tut

Suley says: I am currently away from the computer.

Gaz. says: C'mon "Baaad man" c'mon.

Suley says: nah lets do it sat or next week or something

Gaz. says: tut ohhh. booooo

Suley says: well just delete it

Gaz. says: I won't

Suley says: I'm trying to steal software

Gaz. says: I'll save it to word pad and edit it to make you look bad hahaha

Suley says: probably, ok try and do some. No personal shit

Gaz. says: ok no personal questions.

Suley says: yeah?

Gaz. says: nah I promise I wont. *crosses fingers* . No really I won't

Suley says: Gaz is it true that you used to be muslim but then quit, when faith didnt allow u to attend beatdowwns , yes I've been speaking to Usman

Gaz. says: No I have always been interested in religion and I think Islam has some irrefutable facts but at the same time some of the doctrines don't make any sense at all to me and I find it hard to believe that they are divine in origin.

Suley says: ooohh nice. Keep that, but not at the start of the interview. Perhaps you might want to keep some of that as a pretext too the nature of this interview. Where do u see yourself going with your mma career?

Gaz. says: An early grave, with really achey joints, and no short term memory, how about you?

Suley says: with what career?

Gaz. says: who're you again?

Suley says: your dad

Gaz. says: Oh why did you leave?

Suley says: all your fault, you see you can't be sensible

Gaz. says: nah this is good

Suley says: interview terminated after one question, haha

Gaz. says: Dont be silly we can edit. Plus people love this shit. I mean its cracking me up.

Suley says: hah, ok, thats cos your brain is wrong. What do u think of ladies in MMA?

Gaz. says: hmmmmm, the action's boring but theres nothing wrong with athletic women. They shouldn't be allowed to punch each other in the face though.

Suley says: hmmn, don't you think thats a bad attitude its like how would men like it if someone tried to dictate our rules of combat, like when councils say "no" to having events? We are consenting adults (I'm playing devils advocate)

Gaz. says: We are consenting adults but they are women, sorry but I don't believe in democracy, equality or freedom of speech. Infact the later should be revoked. Without a right to revolution its impotent. Hey keep it to MMA, politics is boring. Your last fight was againts Mo Coles. Tell us why did you flagrantly disregard the rules and elbow him in the head?

Suley says: Ohh man , it truly was an accident - even though I did it couple times

Gaz. says: 3 times in a row accident?

Suley says: it must have just been leverage or distance, it just happened like that

Gaz. says: or delibrate perhaps?

Suley says: HONEST .hah.

Gaz. says: OK.

Suley says: I'm sportsman not a fighter

Gaz. says: we know, we know (I was only ribbing). Is it true you rarely cook and live off supplements and bagels?

Suley says: Haha, its a myth.

SFUK butts in this conversation, post interview, to say : No it's not.

Suley says : I fuel the fire though, I go along with it when people joke, but it's not true. But I do eat a lot of filled bagels and love myoplex

Gaz. says: Do you taylor your diet or do you eat what you want?

Suley says: *sponsor me supplement company*

Gaz. says: (I know the answer but the monkey's dont)

Suley says: I sorted my diet when I was around 19 , I instilled a healthy eating policy and now healthy eating is the norm. Burgers, and stuff are not on the menu, nor alcahol. And you Gazatron?

Gaz. says: OK

Suley says: this is turning into the Suley show

Gaz. says: Yes and no. When I have somthing specific that I need to do with my body such as gain/cut weight, then yes I will taylor my diet to my needs. Also before a fight in the training that perceeds I try to cut out anything that may make me sluggish such as red meat, or dairy products which can make you a little mucousy. Yes and no thats meant to be

Suley says: yeah, true. same

Gaz. says: When gaining weight I try to consume 30gms of protein every three hours, but I cant be bothered to go into details in an interview.

Suley says: I think everyone knows this stuff the part that nobody likes to admit is they just don't REALLY implement it

Gaz. says: True

Suley says: Cos its hard to be so strict

Gaz. says: everyone know about nutrition nowadays. I do implemant it but fairly loosley.

Suley says: And the fact that everyone is different the secret is yoiu have to monitor yourself in everything u do

Gaz. says: Everyone that knows you knows you are a keen lifter. Which came first chronologicly lifting or fighting?

Suley says: *thinks back to Gaz laughing at me first time we met, writing my weight diary*

Gaz. says: hahaha

Suley says: hmmmmn, let me think , well i guess martial arts

Gaz. says: don't think. Feeeeeel.

Suley says: haha

Suley says: I fell into that. Karate - kicboxing and weapons- muay thai, then got stagnent. Thought thai was the end - fast forward few years- discovered grappling got my ass kicked. Started lifting properly, I found a real shitty gym at uni

Gaz. says: what year was this?

Suley says: '98

Gaz. says: OK, Man I'd had a few MMA fights by then.

Suley says: haha. Veteran

Gaz. says: I know and still a young fighter. Crazy go nuts.

Suley says: I met this dude in Gym called Davin. Let me tell u about Davin ... he was cool. I used to go to this gym, he was there the place only had one bit of floor that was even and had a bench and squat rack I used to go in for like hour and half lift and shit - no clue. I used to do a routine I got off a mate - muscle dynamics

Gaz. says: you shat in his gym?

Suley says: haha. shut it.

Gaz. says: Was that common practise there?

Suley says: nobody would have noticed. Man I got so many stories I could write a page

Gaz. says: Sweet. Maybe you could do a weekly column?

Suley says: but to cut this one short, I went in one day to find davin training. He was around 5 ft 9 14 stone and he was pro powerlifter anyway.

Gaz. says: Wow. I bet he had a temper

Suley says: I never squatted until then. Nah he used to be 18 stone

Gaz. says: I bet he was moody though

Suley says: He was a light weight in comparison. Haha, what do you mean?

Gaz. says: Well he's 5'9 so he's going to have little man syndrome. Then on top of that his parents give him a ridiculous name like Davin so those are two factors for all the other kids to pick on him no wonder he started lifting.

Suley says: True. Its a bit like making someone really well spoken, and making him a great fighter, then placing him in a bad area and watch the fun.

Gaz. says: hmmmmm

Suley says: haha- "this is Gaz everyone" *yoda voice* 'he is young but he will learn'. Anyway here he was in the rack squatting Suley says: 260kg. I was like holy shit, then I was like teach me teach me. Help me, what do i do?

Gaz. says: Man, 260kg is alot

Suley says: he was reluctant Suley says: but I got him to help me with routine and my weights rocketed and my thirst for knowledge.

Gaz. says: So Davin taught you how to lift.

Suley says: he taught me to research what to do

Gaz. says: So we could say he imparted you with the knowledge and the bug, thats changed your life.

Suley says: about basic food stuff & about weights, yeah, put me on right path

Gaz. says: true but I think you'd have found it any way if a persons so inclined its just a matter of time before they get there.

Suley says: Or I'd still be doing cable crossovers and leg extensions

Gaz. says: haha@leg extensions. leg extensions=romo

Suley says: haha sorry for all readers who do them. haha. So Gaz how did you feel Cage Combat series went? I thought few were great one lacked a little but mostly really good. Did you like your show?

Gaz. says: Yeah they were good. I didn't watch the girl one and I still havn't seen Jez's (Bailey's) which I really want to see because I like that guy he cracks me up.

Suley says: I missed that, we were in Miami weren't we?

Gaz. says: Yep we were in Florida at the time

Suley says: muwhaha

Gaz. says: you were there too

Suley says: So I was. The 72 hours binge. haha

Gaz. says: mmmmmmmmm

Suley says: not alcahol, but me and you lacked sleep .It was the damn jacuzzi

Gaz. says: I'm pretty anyway. I don't need that much beauty sleep.

Suley says: And Philip Miller and Joe Stevenson = bad influence. lol name dropping

Gaz. says: Joe Stephenson is the coolest guy in the U.S.A. That kid is hilarious. Back to the question...yeah my programme was alright.

Suley says: do you have time for the ladies yet HAHAH

Gaz. says: I wish. (I don't even know where they go, or what they do, or where you find them?)

Suley says: haha, I thought they all were great

Gaz. says: yeah Ross owned

Suley says: obviously lot of mates were in them so I'm kind bias

Gaz. says: same as

Suley says: I thought ****** vs ****** Suley says: was lacking something

Gaz. says: I thought ****** was a pussy. What the crap did they film him for?

Suley says: not sure if we should name names

Suley says: haha. Too late

Gaz. says: theres always the final edit

Suley says: hehe true. ****** give up

Gaz. says: ****** ahhhh my nail

Suley says: you have no balls and no clue what your doing. Your gonna get mashed

Gaz. says: mate we have to keep that in but ***** over the name hahaha. How long have you been training in London Suley?

Suley says: brb. dumpola

Gaz. says: OK. Convenient I need to piss one out.

Suley says: About 3 years, graduated in 99 , came here in 2000. Started understanding what real training is and here we are.

Gaz. says: Ok. You told me you stopped being intersested in your girlfriend of four years while you were training in London and this lead to your break up and you said that you didn't really care. Does this make you a bad person and are you this discompassionate towards everyone. In short are you a baaad man?

Suley says: oh man. cheers mate. There was lot of background. We were both young . It happens. I dont regret it . I'll always wonder what if.

Gaz. says: Do you regret anything?

Suley says: I wish I started training younger, but regreting is just another word for learning. Every regret you have you can learn. I guess learnt something from it i.e regret I didnt KO/ sub that guy . Why did it happen? Work on you mistakes and you grow as a fighter. I used to think I'll wait until im perfect before I fight, but you realise that you wait forever cos it's not going to happen. So just learn on the job - fighting as a YTS scheme

Gaz. says: Thats a pretty good way of putting it. Ok so you regret stuff that hasn't benifitted you or satiated a want. Have you ever regretted your actions toward another person based on viewing the situation from they're perspective. I ask again are you a baaad man?

Suley says: haha, err when I was younger, I beat some kids up that didnt deserve it. I'm not religious but i try to be a GOOD man, I try and stick by Karma rules

Gaz. says: I see. So you only regret it because the possibility of karmic return. (hmmm I still think you're a triple A baaad man.)

Suley says: So I expect a kicking coming my way sooner or later.

Gaz. says: are you a sociopath?

Suley says: haha. No thats you and Mike Green. So back to you

Gaz. says: Ok!... (My favorite subject aside from your amorality)

Suley says: You're rematching Paul Jenkins soon, what is your training for that? and any changes from last time?

Gaz. says: Same as before just pummel in the clinch and not go to my back.

Suley says: I see. Then your rematching Mark Day at EF.1 Anything you want to tell us about that?

Gaz. says: First things first. I'm trying not to think about Mark because first I have to deal with Paul so I'm focused on that right now. Last time I didn't pummel at all. I was seriously not expecting him to want to close. Paul is a primarily a stand up fighter so I thought he would be happy to trade. In the programme (TV) I said I had better hands then him, I meant to say sharper but those were the words that came out in interview. I thought (and showed in my opinion) that I could sting and move against him and pick him apart on the feet. This time I wont go to my back and my standup wrestling will be in gear.

Suley says: vengenace is a dangerous motive *said in best little thai man from kickboxer voice*

Gaz. says: Yeah, Mark Day he's another tough headed sod. Last time was a draw I heard mixed opinions on that fight with regards to where a decision would have gone. From being in the fight a draw seemed fair it was very back and forth with both of us landing some great shots from within each others guard and transitioning, sweeping and submission hunting. I would love to see the tape (c' mon Mr Jardine get that one out there). Both of us have matured since then so expect the same intensity but on a higher plateu.

Suley says: yeah. Never be said your fights are boring

Gaz. says: Never!

Suley says: you have some beasts. Jenkins, Cooper (who is awesome), Day. All wars

Gaz. says: Sometimes I think perhaps I have a style that makes wars, perhaps I should tweek and look for some earlier finishes

Suley says: before you lose your good looks

Gaz. says: Even in the fights I've lost I somtimes wonder how? Everything seemed to be there ie: I land the first shot get dominant position first then somthing happens like the intensity is there but the finish isn't. I'm telling everyone once I get my head round it people are getting blitzed.

Suley says: yeah. I can see where your coming from

Gaz. says: Pisses me off actually *shakes fist at the sky* "WHY GOD? WHY?*

Suley says: LOL

Gaz. says: You yourself have been making a few ripples to put it mildly in UK MMA, with many of the top promotions head hunting you. To Illustrate this you are fighting on arguably the daddy of UK MMA events - Andy Jardine's Extreme Brawl 3 for a national tittle. How do feel about 1- Your opponant Matt Ewin and. 2- The prospect of being Brittish Champ in the longest running domestic show?

Suley says: wow big question. Its really cool I have got the shot and I'm grateful to Andy Jardine for the opportunity. I have a bit more time freed up now than expected so I aim to put it to good use training wise. Matt Ewin I think is probably underated and i think this is going to be real tough for me, but for him as well. Styles make fights and i htink this may be a bit of a Gaz style fight. We're both going home with headaches

Gaz. says: Bloody hell do your cardio then if its gonna be Gaz style. Underated because of how The Reidinator made him look?

Suley says: yeah. I think nerves had an impact on him. But I think he came back real strong to beat a great fighter in Alex Evans

Gaz. says: true a lot of people come back better after a loss, look at Freeman, I think that guys so dangerous after a loss. Velentine's in for some ride at Extreme Force.

If any other fighters would like to do a Roriston v Suley style interview then let us know!


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